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luzula ([personal profile] luzula) wrote2021-12-20 11:06 pm

Details of 18th century shirt

Okay, I've made progress on the shirt; turns out Zoom meetings where I don't have to pay full attention are good for hand-sewing. The only thing now left is the buttonholes on the cuffs and adding ruffles.


Here's the whole shirt; you can see the little heart-shaped strengthening I put at the base of the neckline. The collar is not stiff at all, but I guess it would be covered by a neck-cloth anyway.


Close-up of the heart. Probably I could have reinforced this much better, though.


Top of the sleeve. The inside of the seam is properly flat-felled along the top of the shoulder, but not along the sleeve. There I just zig-zagged the edges and sewed them to the main fabric, which is sloppier, but it's harder to flat-fell the seam when the sleeve fabric is gathered. The description I went by said to have a sleeve binder, which is basically a piece of fabric sewn onto the inside and covering the seam. But alas, I was too lazy for that.

In general one thing I regret is being too stingy with the breadth of the strips of fabric left on the inside seams, so that it was in some places difficult to flat-fell them! Why on earth, when I had so much fabric and the shirt is so loose, did I do it that way?


The outside of the cuff.


The inside of the cuff; this is hand-sewn. Should I have done a back-stitch instead? I don't know.


The gusset at the neck. I like this construction! But here you can see my difficulties with flat-felling a seam when it suddenly divides into two...


The gusset under the arm. These seams are also not properly flat-felled, I zig-zagged them on the machine and then sewed them by hand to the main fabric. I'm not that used to sewing by hand, and am not sure I did it in the best way. But at least there are no strains on those seams, so it shouldn't be that important.

I can see how hand-sewing is neater in some ways, though, and probably looks very pretty when you're experienced at it. Like, on the machine I usually start by backing up a bit and then going forward, to secure the end of the seam, and it can make for an ugly bit of seam when you do that, with thread ends that you cut off on the outside, instead of securing them on the inside. Of course it doesn't matter on a seam which attaches two pieces of fabric, which won't be visible, but on hems and on flat-felling it's visible.


The little gusset where the shirttails divide. It looks a bit weird--surely it's not meant to bulge out like that?

Okay, I'll give up and make a sewing tag. Three posts make a tag...
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2021-12-20 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, this looks so good! I am duly impressed by all your gussets.

Zoom meetings where I don't have to pay full attention are good for hand-sewing. So true! I've got so much embroidery done this year…
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2021-12-21 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I had never thought of it, but I could!
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[personal profile] jesse_the_k 2021-12-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)

I love the heart reinforcement, so near the heart, and so important in fanfic.

The cuff gathers are beautiful!

The tagging facilitates my forming the question, "Where did you get that beautiful linen?" and it seems you haven't already said.

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[personal profile] ljm 2021-12-20 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Lovely! *Heart eyes.* Your close up details look great, and I especially like how light and airy the shirts looks in the first photo, with the daylight behind it.
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[personal profile] ljm 2021-12-22 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
It looks like you already figured out the places where things could have been done differently- machine sewing vs handsewing, and having enough seam allowance for flat felled seams for example. The only thing that stood out to me (which I don't necessarily think is wrong) is that you knife pleated the sleeves rather than cartridge pleating or gathering them, which I believe was more common for historical shirts (though I can't say for sure.) The pleats turned out well though.
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[personal profile] seascribble 2021-12-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
You made a garment!\o/
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[personal profile] cathexys 2021-12-21 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This is really awesome!

I'm so impressed :)
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[personal profile] isis 2021-12-21 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow! I know nothing of sewing so it all looks like magic to me!
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[personal profile] regshoe 2021-12-21 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Amazing :D I don't understand all the technical sewing details, but I think it all looks beautiful. Especially the intricacies of the cuffs, and that little heart reinforcement at the neck (how sweet!).
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[personal profile] killclaudio 2021-12-21 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my goodness, that looks gorgeous! I especially love the little heart-shaped reinforcement, and the foofy cuffs look wonderful. You're so skilful, I can barely mend my socks.

The loose, blousy look is great, like a genuine 18th century one. I was watching this video from Liverpool Museums about 18th century dress, and apparently because the tails were so long and tucked into the breeches, a lot of men didn't bother with underwear? :/ I guess the linen was easy to change and wash every day.
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[personal profile] hurry_sundown 2021-12-22 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Wow! I can just about sew on a button.
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[personal profile] nnozomi 2021-12-22 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh the shirt is so gorgeous, both the fabric and the design. <3 (small heart-shaped reinforcement ;) )
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[personal profile] ceruleancat 2021-12-22 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Beautiful! I love all the extra strengthening in these shirts. That really should come back.
How see-through is that linen? It catches the light so beautifully in the first pic.

Interesting you did pleats instead of gathers at the shoulder and cuff. I wonder if that made the seams harder to fell, since, more layers.
Some of the videos I linked before show the linking of neck ruffles, if you want.

I've been thinking about the detachable wrist ruffles. 18th C. ones were apparently frequently basted or tacked on and removed for washing (as were the neck ruffles). That seems impractical for modern purposes. But earlier were either connected with eyelets and ribbon (like sleeves), or with small buttons, and buttons were definitely used in the 19the c, so it's fair to assume 18th c also had them as an option. You could of course make the ornate cuffs entirely separate, just tied around with ribbon, like Tudor ruffs (or, going the modern way, with elastic).

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[personal profile] ceruleancat 2021-12-27 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Would love to see the gathers when you do them. But how are you not daunted by unpicking the pleats and redoing all the work?
The lace looks beautiful. doesn't look coarse to me, although there would, of course, be more delicate designs. I'm sure you'd have had all levels of ornateness at the time, depending on the wearer's means and the availability of lace.
The beauty about detachable is you can make several with different lace styles, different lengths and amount of floof in the gathers.
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[personal profile] skygiants 2021-12-24 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
This looks AMAZING!
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[personal profile] garonne 2021-12-24 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)

This looks so cool! So light and puffy and nicely finished.

And your flat-felling is so neat, even where the seams divide.

I am puzzled by the gussets in the neckline. Where are they exactly? I guess there's one on either side, on each shoulder? Or something else? I had a lot of trouble with the neckline/collar area when I tried to make a similar shirt. It turned out kind of wrong and now I'm wondering if it would've helped if I had included neck gussets, which I didn't.

I have to confess that I machine-sewed my button-holes :D I hate sewing button-holes. But I justified it by telling myself that they would mostly be hidden by the big buttons I used as cufflinks anyway ;)

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[personal profile] helens78 2021-12-27 12:18 am (UTC)(link)

First of all, yay sewing! That looks fantastic!

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I don't know if that means they're suddenly easy to find again and you already have one, or if this is something that would be useful for you, but if you need one and have any trouble finding one that will ship to you, I'm happy to order and send you one!