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Jacobites vs Hanoverians
Jan. 29th, 2020 10:29 pmSo when I first read Flight of the Heron I didn't understand or care much of what the war of the '45 was actually about. I was just there for the slash. : ) Here's the progression of my feelings on that war so far, as I read more about it...
Reaction #1: What do I really care who's on the British throne in the 18th century? Kings, bah.
Reaction #2: Oh, okay, so the Jacobites believe in the divine right of the Stuart kings? And the Hanoverians at least also have a parliament as well as a king, even if it undoubtedly only gives influence to rich people...so they're at least marginally more democratic? I guess I should be on the side of the latter, then, if I have to take sides.
Reaction #3: So this is how the two sides acted:
Jacobite leadership: When we win a battle, let's make sure the wounded prisoners get medical treatment, and we'll release the captured officers on parole. When we move through enemy country, let's not kill and rape civilians and not burn their houses. Though we will take food (don't know if they paid for it) and also take over the taxation system, because obviously we consider ourselves the rightful recipients of it.
Hanoverian leadership: When we win a battle, let's send out death squads to kill the wounded from the other army, and we'll deny medical treatment to those we don't kill! Also, let's encourage our captured officers to break their paroles. When we move through enemy country, let's order our soldiers to kill civilians and burn their houses (no info on raping). Also, let's try to destroy the culture of an area by transporting them into slavery on the second offense if they wear their traditional clothes.
There's a reason the sides acted that way, of course--the Jacobites wanted to be seen as legitimate combatants who followed all the civilized rules of war. While the Hanoverians wanted to see the Jacobites as illegitimate rebels who didn't deserve the consideration of being treated by the rules of war.
So yeah, that does affect my view of them, and on an emotional level this means I can't help sympathizing with the Jacobites despite their political principles. This is of course also affected by shallow motives. (Kilts and plaids are hot, okay? Yes, yes, I know, there were also Highlanders fighting for the Hanoverians, but still). And I know it's always easier to sympathize with the underdogs--we don't know what would have happened had they actually won (which doesn't seem completely impossible, had they pushed on to London instead of turning back at Derby). And then they would have been the ones having to squash dissent...
Reaction #1: What do I really care who's on the British throne in the 18th century? Kings, bah.
Reaction #2: Oh, okay, so the Jacobites believe in the divine right of the Stuart kings? And the Hanoverians at least also have a parliament as well as a king, even if it undoubtedly only gives influence to rich people...so they're at least marginally more democratic? I guess I should be on the side of the latter, then, if I have to take sides.
Reaction #3: So this is how the two sides acted:
Jacobite leadership: When we win a battle, let's make sure the wounded prisoners get medical treatment, and we'll release the captured officers on parole. When we move through enemy country, let's not kill and rape civilians and not burn their houses. Though we will take food (don't know if they paid for it) and also take over the taxation system, because obviously we consider ourselves the rightful recipients of it.
Hanoverian leadership: When we win a battle, let's send out death squads to kill the wounded from the other army, and we'll deny medical treatment to those we don't kill! Also, let's encourage our captured officers to break their paroles. When we move through enemy country, let's order our soldiers to kill civilians and burn their houses (no info on raping). Also, let's try to destroy the culture of an area by transporting them into slavery on the second offense if they wear their traditional clothes.
There's a reason the sides acted that way, of course--the Jacobites wanted to be seen as legitimate combatants who followed all the civilized rules of war. While the Hanoverians wanted to see the Jacobites as illegitimate rebels who didn't deserve the consideration of being treated by the rules of war.
So yeah, that does affect my view of them, and on an emotional level this means I can't help sympathizing with the Jacobites despite their political principles. This is of course also affected by shallow motives. (Kilts and plaids are hot, okay? Yes, yes, I know, there were also Highlanders fighting for the Hanoverians, but still). And I know it's always easier to sympathize with the underdogs--we don't know what would have happened had they actually won (which doesn't seem completely impossible, had they pushed on to London instead of turning back at Derby). And then they would have been the ones having to squash dissent...
