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Poll #25797 Binding published books for private use
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Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 24

If you have published a book (or want to publish a book), how would you feel if someone takes the ebook that they have purchased, changes the layout a bit, and prints and binds one copy of the book for their own private bookshelf?

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I would be flattered
19 (79.2%)

It's fine--it's kind of like having the ebook on two different devices
14 (58.3%)

I don't like it, but it's not a crime
0 (0.0%)

It's against copyright law
0 (0.0%)

Other, see comments
3 (12.5%)


This is mostly relevant if no printed version is for sale, of course...

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Date: 2021-06-14 07:33 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
This seems totally, 100% fine to me. If it was someone putting together a physical copy of fics I have written, for example, for their own use - that just doesn't seem like any of my business?? As long as they're not making money off it or disseminating it, then they can do what they want, as far as I can tell.

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Date: 2021-06-14 07:42 pm (UTC)
genarti: Knees-down view of woman on tiptoe next to bookshelves (Default)
From: [personal profile] genarti
Right, same! I'd be flattered that someone felt my work was worth the effort and the curation, especially if they went to any artistic lengths about it, but it's nor really my business unless they choose to show it off to me. It doesn't lose me a sale in this scenario; it's literally just them doing what they want with their own copy.

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Date: 2021-06-14 08:13 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: monk peering at lectern (Medieval proofreader)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

After commercial printing took off in the west in the 1500s, the printers sold imprinted signatures, and it was up to the purchaser to bind them together into a book.

Do what you will!

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Date: 2021-06-14 09:39 pm (UTC)
falkner: (とうらぶ ☆ huh?)
From: [personal profile] falkner
I had no idea at all about this, and it sounds super fascinating!

I happened to read

Date: 2021-06-14 09:46 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: cap Times Roman "S" with nick in upper corner, captioned "I shot the serif." (shot the serif)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

The Art of the Book last week, which is how I learned that. I searched for a handy wiki link but, not so surprisingly, the devotees of the book arts scorn online resources -- although PhiloBiblon is worth admiring.

Luz has a wide range of readers -- I was a typesetter, graphic designer and calligrapher in an earlier life.

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Date: 2021-06-14 09:38 pm (UTC)
falkner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] falkner
I don't see how this would be any different (other than the effort and manual labor included, of course) than printing out fics to read. I guess it's not that common nowadays, but I still have stories I have printed out 10+ years ago and that have been long deleted off the Internet by this point.

ETA: I just realized this comment is incredibly poorly worded and that I should have waited to have some sleep in me before trying to make a point... basically I was trying to say that since it's something that you're just doing privately for yourself, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Edited Date: 2021-06-14 09:43 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2021-06-14 09:40 pm (UTC)
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)
From: [personal profile] china_shop
Do you want votes from people who aren't published origific writers too?

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Date: 2021-06-15 08:15 pm (UTC)
china_shop: Close-up of Zhao Yunlan grinning (Default)
From: [personal profile] china_shop
Done. :)

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Date: 2021-06-15 02:11 am (UTC)
lyr: (Shiny Kaylee: annasiconnas)
From: [personal profile] lyr
Not only would I be cool with it, I'd want to hear about it and maybe see some pictures.

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Date: 2021-06-15 06:28 am (UTC)
vatine: Generated with some CL code and a hand-designed blackletter font (Default)
From: [personal profile] vatine
On a purely personal level, I see no difference between this and (say) ripping a CD to MP3, OGG or whatever. Probably flies under the "personal format conversion" exception in most European copyright legislations (can check that if you want, but it may take a few months).

On the authorial level, I would be extremely flattered that someone found my work to be worthy of that much extra work. And possibly a bit worried, if it turned out they were doing it only with my ebooks.

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Date: 2021-06-15 02:05 pm (UTC)
feroxargentea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] feroxargentea
I'd be torn between being amused and thinking it a bit cheeky, given the relative prices of ebooks and paperbacks! But one book by one person is no matter either way.
(I should say, that's more of a commercial outlook. As a fan, I think it lovely.)
Edited Date: 2021-06-15 02:07 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2021-06-16 04:28 am (UTC)
feroxargentea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] feroxargentea
Oh I'm sure. But I meant the prices that reach the author, as I was considering it from their pov. Royalties for paperbacks, ebooks and audiobooks will be different. (Again, as a one-off it's irrelevant!)
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